Note to wind turbine firefighters: “Just let them burn and they will eventually burn out.”

If you’re not familiar with the Pinnacle wind facility, it’s located along the Allegheny Front in Mineral County West Virginia.  The road to the summit of Green Mountain, where the turbines are located, might best be described as a combined hill-climb and Grand Prix racing course.  Fun for an old MG … not so much for a fire truck.

Some of us were more than a little worried that one or more of the turbines in this seriously isolated location might burst into flames and the falling debris might cause the fire to spread throughout the forest before the firetrucks had any chance of getting to the scene.  We were concerned that hundreds of acres could well go up in flames pretty quickly if the conditions were right.  We all know that wind is the best friend of wildfires and, well, wind is the reason they put the turbines up there in the first place, isn’t it?  The thought of homes destroyed and folks caught in the flames is pretty scary.

Imagine my surprise when I read that, at a recent citizen’s meeting, Joe Bocian, project manager for the wind project, set to open prior to December 31, 2011, calmed the crowd with this advice:  Concerning fires that might occur in the turbines, Bocian said from his own experience, “Just let them burn and they will eventually burn out.”

Now there’s a plan … just let them burn.  Why didn’t I think of that!!!

Hmmm … smoky pieces flying through the air.  What could possibly go wrong?

Unlike this video, the turbines at Pinnacle are not located on a level field next to the highway.  They’re on top of the mountain, surrounded by forest vegetation.  I don’t know about you, but the fact that the fire is some 300 feet up and the burning object is spinning doesn’t give me a real comfort about containment.  So, is letting them burn a really good idea?  Or is letting them burn until they burn out simply the only choice available?

Let’s see what Fire Engineering has to say about fires at wind turbines? (bold emphasis mine)

Fires can occur in distinct locations and heights and may involve various fuels and ignition sources. The wind tower’s primary objective is to produce electricity. Hence, a number of possible ignition sources exist from ground level and in more than a few wind farms, from underground levels up to more than 300 feet above ground.

Fuels can include electrical cables, plastics, and even textiles, any and all of which can also be found at all heights. Since the construction materials used in these towers and their components will invariably include plastics and possibly some combustible metals (e.g., titanium and aluminum, among others), as well as relatively easily deformable metallic structural and enclosure materials, the consequences of a fire in a wind turbine can be disastrous.

Also, a fire in a turbine assembly can propagate to surrounding vegetation and produce a wildland fire risk, and a fire involving surrounding vegetation could pose a threat to the wind farm. (not to mention homes in the area)

The origins of fires in wind generators are numerous and in some instances almost inevitable. Statistics show that the major cause of fires in aerogenerators is lightning. Although aerogenerators include lightning arresters and other elements to reduce the potential of ignition from lightning strikes, they do not completely eliminate possible lightning damage.

Another frequent cause of fires is the mechanical friction among the multiple moving parts of the turbine assembly, gears, shafts, and other moving or rotating metal components that may provoke sparking. Since the average wind turbine may contain more than 200 gallons of hydraulic fluid plus variable quantities of other lubricants and similar combustible liquids, there’s no shortage of fuel.

Electrical short circuits can occur in numerous locations, anywhere from the windmill’s top to the base. Fires in wind turbines are known to contribute to structural failure and collapse.

The major inconvenience at wind farms in regard to possible fires is that most of these installations are unattended. The operating companies have technicians available within reasonable distances, but they are not usually present, except during periodic inspections or maintenance operations. Fire protection at wind farms and inside the aerogenerators depends entirely on automatic fire detection and extinguishment systems, with reliable and constant supervision at one or more fixed locations. Detection is usually multidisciplinary, including early detection—fast response systems coupled with self-contained automatic extinguishing systems such as water mist or inert gases. The detection systems, usually networked and requiring detection/confirmation of a fire, instantaneously communicate the alarm to the supervision station and simultaneously activate the extinguishing system. The supervision of the detection and extinguishing systems must be full-time and be able to clearly and concisely communicate complete information to responsible emergency responding agencies.

Responding fire departments may normally be several miles away and have to travel over roads that quite often require all-wheel-drive vehicles. The primary limiting factors to fire department intervention are the height of the fire and the extremely limited vertical access inside the tower. A fire actively fought, controlled, and extinguished by fire department personnel would be a rare event. The general rule established in SOPs is not to attempt to physically attack a fire inside the tower and generator assembly but instead to rely on the fixed installations. At the same time, it would be necessary to establish an exterior defensive attack to protect exposed structures and vegetation near the affected tower.

It is absolutely imperative that emergency responders interact with the wind turbine operators to create, implement, and maintain preemergency response planning. Responders should go to the site to familiarize themselves with the facilities and develop simulation emergency exercises with the operators.

(Oh, by the way …) Human injury rescue operations are another matter. Emergencies involving physical injury to operational and maintenance personnel occasionally present in and around the wind generators (mainly falls and similar accidents) and will inevitably require high-angle rescue techniques and tactics, since an injured operator may be more than 300 feet above ground and inside very tight confined spaces that have extremely limited access.

(Fire Engineering piece ends)

Seems the Fire Engineering folks think communities should have a plan beyond “just let them burn and they will eventually burn out.”  Maybe we do, and I simply haven’t seen anything published.  The article didn’t really say much beyond the statement that “an access for emergency vehicles would be available.

One would hope, at a minimum, these turbines are equipped with an internal automatic fire suppression system.  Maybe even a warning system directly connected to the regional fire jurisdictions to gain all possible time for mobilization to protect the surrounding area.  One would assume that arrangements are in place for bringing in specialized crews trained to fight forest fires which start as a result of fiery debris falling outside the reach and, perhaps, expertise of the local firefighters.

Oh, I need to stop being such a worry wart.  Surely the wind plant owners aren’t going to dump all this responsibility on our local firefighters with a simple “let it burn.”  There has to be a lot more to the story.

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Reader challenges wind advocates to include all the facts!

The following letter was submitted to local newspapers by Keyser WV resident Dallas Adams, Sr.

Letter begins:

MISLEADING/MISINFORMATION

Dear Editor:

Pleased to read the press release from Eastern Tech College about their training of wind turbine technicians (News-Tribune, August26, pg. 1B) They are equipping local students for $17 dollar per hour (+ job benefit ) to keep wind turbines working. While I’m not certain that I would advise my grandson or granddaughter to pay tuition to a college and spend two years studying for a job that is at best a borderline living wage, goodness knows these jobs are needed.

Friends in Mt. Storm tell me those turbines break down very frequently. It’s too bad that Eastern Tech isn’t training local folks for Marcellus gas jobs. They pay more of a living wage and there will be many more than the ” 60 or so” wind jobs Eastern is planning to train annually.

Now, it is one thing for a college to tell the public what they are doing and another thing entirely for a college or university to actively promote, with significant misinformation. a particular business. Eastern has crossed that line and in so doing this press release does a great disservice to Eastern WV Community College and Technical Center.

The Dean of Career, Technical and Workforce Education did not tell the public the truth regarding the expected electricity generation from industrial wind in our region. When he stated , “Just last year, three new farms totaling 95 units with a combined generating capacity of 170 megawatts opened in counties neighboring our service district” he chose to omit something very important. Those turbines will generate a mere fraction of their generating capacity. In fact the PJM grid anticipates new wind facilities .will produce only 13% of their rated capacity. (PJM Manual 21, pg 19) The Dean did not ignore this essential information out of ignorance. After all he is an engineer with 23 years of experience in studying wind issues.

He also said that industrial wind is importance to national security. What nonsense???? No electricity generator that functions at its capacity only a small fraction of the time, can be depended upon in a national crisis. A few weeks ago, Texas went through an energy crisis and wind failed miserably.

Texas has 10,235 ,megawatts of installed wind generation capacity. On this past August 2, electricity demand in Texas hit 67,929 megawatts. Output from the state’s wind turbines was just 1,500 megawatts, 15% of their total nameplate capacity. On four days in August 2010, when electricity demand set records wind energy was able to contribute just 1-2 percent of total demand. For this insignificant contribution to their energy, Texas ratepayers are on the hook for $17, billion. Why should area ratepayers want to raise their bills for something that does not work????

Eastern. Keep telling us what you are doing. But for goodness sakes, stop selling your credibility to the wind salesman. It would be interesting for you to report the number of grad’s finding employment with the wind industry.

Dallas O. Adams Sr.

Keyser, WV

Related:  Texas Wind Energy Fails, Again – Robert Bryce; Wind Energy Turbine Technology -Eastern West Virginia Community & Technical College

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Breaking Wind – Quick hits from the industry for August 30, 2011

Items of interest:

1:  Aw, shucks! “A report commissioned by ScottishPower concludes that reducing subsidies 25 percent will render the (1,000 land-based) turbines a loss maker for investors instead of just rate and taxpayers.”CFACT EU

2-And more on handouts abroad: “Given the Dutch government’s controversial decision to indefinitely delay its next offshore wind tender, many in the industry believed that what could be the country’s final offshore wind subsidy should have gone to a domestic company.”Recharge

3-No … really? “Complaints that the renewable energy industry creates relatively few jobs is probably accurate, say energy and economic experts.”National Journal

4-Yes … we used to be ahead of the curve:  “While the U.S. is dumping billions of dollars into wind farms and onshore and offshore wind turbines, this energy source is being cast aside as a failure elsewhere in the world.”FrontPageMag

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AFA comments to USFWS on Eastern Small-Footed Bat and the Northern Long-Eared Bat

The Allegheny Front Alliance submitted the following letter to the US Fish and Wildlife Service regarding the plight of the Eastern Small-Footed Bat and the Northern Long-Eared Bat.  It should be noted that the AFA has great concern about the dangers posed by industrial wind to the many relict terrestrial species whose critical habitats are limited to the very ridgeline summits the massive turbines destroy.

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Breaking Wind – Quick hits from the industry for August 24, 2011

Items of interest:

1-Very interesting analysis of Evergreen Solar’s demise at MasterResource:

Part I:  Evergreen Solar Inc.: Anatomy of a ‘Green’ Bankruptcy

Part II:  Sustainability Lessons from Evergreen Solar’s Bankruptcy

2-“Electricity has to be generated exactly in the same time that it’s being produced in the system. In order for the system to work, power supply and demand have to match exactly.  As you now introduce more variable generation into the system like wind, and it’s fluctuating, you have to have generation elsewhere in the system that can respond to that. And wind doesn’t respond to directed signals to drop or increase load. So, somewhere else on the system you’ve got coal-fired or gas-turbine or hydro that are responding to the changes in demand and changes in other generation.” – Jon Kaake, CEO of the independent grid analyst group Columbia Grid in OPB News

Gee, I’ve heard this before – Why Wind Won’t Work

3-Roanoke County (Virginia)delays vote on wind energy regulationsWDBJ7.com

4-Common sense breaks out in Washington State: The proposed new law would revise the Energy Independence Act to say that if a utility already has excess energy under contract, then the utility has the option to choose not to buy unneeded energy or renewable energy credits otherwise required by the act.The NewsTribune

5-Clipper Windpower has dismissed 90 workers – most of them at its only wind turbine manufacturing plant in Cedar Rapids, IowaRecharge

(I hope Clipper didn’t receive taxpayer support to hire these folks in the first place?)

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Breaking Wind – Quick hits from the industry for August 23, 2011

Items of interest:

1-“As for the windfall in green jobs, that has always been a con job.”Jonah Goldberg (LA Times)

2-“Britain’s Wind Farm Scam Threatens Economic Recovery”Watts Up With That?

3-Former Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas “has long maintained that Vermont is known for its unspoiled mountain vistas. He says building 400-foot-plus wind turbines on mountaintops isn’t a good trade-off because the turbines don’t generate enough energy to justify themselves.”Daily Reporter

And …

as Annette Smith, executive director of Vermonters for a Clean Environment suggests: “It is not too late for Vermont to stop and take a serious look at wind turbine development on our mountains. In fact, now is exactly the right time to step back and evaluate what we know, and build on experience.”National Wind Watch

4-Good read from Idaho: “Blowin’ in the wind; What’s the future of area wind farms?”Power Engineering

5-“A CES is a stealth subsidy for wind and solar power because it requires utilities to buy such types of “clean energy” regardless of their cost. Without mandated purchasing, conventional energy forms such as electricity from natural gas render wind and solar power non-competitive–they’re too costly and too unsustainable to win out as the “energy of choice” in a free market. Requiring utilities to buy wind and solar power, then passing that cost onto businesses and ratepayers is simply a hidden subsidy.”The American

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Breaking Wind – Quick hits from the industry for August 22, 2011

Items of interest:

1-James Hansen Smacks Renewable Energy (“The Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy”–and Lovins as dreamer)Robert Bradley Jr. (MasterResource)

2-Groups Claim Wind Energy Detrimental to W.Va.Andrea Lannom (WOWK)

3-“The (UK) Ministry of Defence (MoD) is blocking plans for hundreds of wind turbines because it says their “seismic noise” will prevent the detection of nuclear explosions around the world.”businessGreen

4-“Thus the wind farm is 22 times more expensive, and could only be built because its owners will receive a 200 per cent subsidy”Christopher Booker (The Telegraph)

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Sing it with me! “The Green Rolling … oops, wait … The Pinwheel Topped Hills of West Virginia”

(Courtesy of our great friends at Windtoons)

I guess maybe they’ll just have to change the lyrics:

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Breaking Wind – Quick hits from the industry for August 19, 2011

Items of interest:

1-Today will be fun – “We’re off to see the turbines, the wonderful turbines of OZ (WV)”

2-Jack Brooks speak on the ruin of Industrial wind for Lowell and all of Vermont:

Visit the Save the Lowell Mountains Now Facebook page for more information.

3-From Reason TV – Tilting at Wind Turbines: Should the Government Subsidize Renewable Energy? (h/t – Western Free Press)

4-“but (Danish wind company) Vestas can be ruthless” – BBC News

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Breaking Wind – Quick hits from the industry for August 18, 2011

Items of interest:

1-SCHNARE: Campaign advice for ‘all of the abovers’Washington Times

(h/t – Larry Thomas – Allegheny Highlands Alliance)

2-Exactly when did it become the role of the Secretary of the Interior to market a commercial product?

Salazar Pushing Industrial Wind this Thursday in Orono – Citizens’ Task Force on Wind Power – Maine

3-If you can answer Item 2, then maybe you can tell me how promoting “offshore” wind sites is part of the Secretary of the Interior’s role.

“Rhode Island is poised to be very much at the point of the spear in developing offshore wind,” (Interior Secretary Ken) Salazar said. – TimesUnion online

4-Oh, but wait … Salazar, who is responsible to protect the interests of Native Americans, was pushing wind in their burial grounds, against their wishes, some time back.  Maybe the Interior Department is actually a wing of the Commerce Department?

AT Flashback – Perhaps Secretary Salazar should name the Cape Wind project in honor of Andrew Jackson.

5-“Research on the migration habits and habitats of Golden Eagles in eastern North America and western Virginia and West Virginia was the subject of a presentation at the recent VSO Board meeting in Highland County. Concern about wind turbine proliferation is a motivation for the research.” – Rick Webb – VA Wind

And, as we posted before:  Location-Location-Location-Migration-Migration-Migration

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